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  • Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.
Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.

I think the framework of reach is great and an amazing game is right there, its so close. Its not like H3 or 2 where the game was just fundamentally flawed.

If you do the things listed below, halo reach will be the best halo MP game in the franchise.

1. Reduce grenade damage/ radius/ nerf those -blam!-es.

2. Increase base player speed and jump height.

3. Increase the power of all non PWs equally. The weapons like the DMR, pistol, AR, NR, PP etc are all perfectly balanced compared to eachother. They just all collectively have too slow of kill times.



If youre a bungie employee and you think this thread is just one guy's moaning and X pages of argueing about it youre wrong. This is all essentially unanimous agreement from all kinds of different sections of the community and player bases. These are serious topics that need to be looked into.

[Edited on 05.03.2010 5:30 AM PDT]

  • 05.02.2010 9:33 PM PDT
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Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.
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Ya I agree. The core systems are great, they just arnt balanced correctly.

  • 05.02.2010 10:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: BanscreenWarrior
Ya I agree. The core systems are great, they just arnt balanced correctly.

Exactly.

  • 05.02.2010 10:07 PM PDT
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i agree 100% with everything u are saying this would definitely make reach a great game. listen to this guy bungie!!!!

  • 05.02.2010 10:09 PM PDT
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remember ChiFighter= k+eye+fighter

yes all of this.


They just got to tweak the Power of the AA's
This is an expected thing though, its a beta, where people play to find gameplay inbalances.

so guys lets be optimistic, OP is on the right track.

  • 05.02.2010 10:11 PM PDT
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ya its me

agree

  • 05.02.2010 10:12 PM PDT
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agree

  • 05.02.2010 10:13 PM PDT
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Yea it would be great if they did these three major gameplay changes.

  • 05.02.2010 10:13 PM PDT
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Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.
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Cuz it's Fictionally Relevant. That's why.

1. Mega yes

2. No

3. No, each weapon needs an edge over the other, if you have a super balanced game. What's the point of picking up new ones?

  • 05.02.2010 10:13 PM PDT
  • unleash ninjas
Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.

When I play the beta tomorrow, I expect to come out with the same feelings as this.

  • 05.02.2010 10:14 PM PDT
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Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.

*Sips tea*

This is the first feedback thread I've seen all day that makes PERFECT sense.

You win the day, sir. I agree on all fronts, maybe not 3 though...

Bungie, you should consider what this man has to say.

  • 05.02.2010 10:15 PM PDT
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Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.

Reach: at least it's not Halo 3!

Yeah:

1. Scrap it in favor of Halo:CE MP.

2. Import H2 maps.

3. Redo the graphics.

Done.

  • 05.02.2010 10:17 PM PDT
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Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.

WABLAM!!!

Posted by: NorbergV06
2. No


Broski, who gives a flip if the way player movement speed isn't accurate to the story in a MULTIPLAYER match? It's all about having fun, not staying true to the story...

I agree with everything said by the OP.

  • 05.02.2010 10:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: NorbergV06
3. No, each weapon needs an edge over the other, if you have a super balanced game. What's the point of picking up new ones?

What I suggested will not break the balance. The PWs are one hit kill weapons so theyl still dominate their area. The only weapon which would need tweaking as a result would be the focus rifle.

  • 05.02.2010 10:21 PM PDT
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Cuz it's Fictionally Relevant. That's why.

Posted by: DarkApoIIo
Posted by: NorbergV06
2. No


Broski, who gives a flip if the way player movement speed isn't accurate to the story in a MULTIPLAYER match? It's all about having fun, not staying true to the story...

I agree with everything said by the OP.

You have missed the point of the armor abilities then. Good going.

  • 05.02.2010 10:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: DarkApoIIo
Posted by: NorbergV06
2. No


Broski, who gives a flip if the way player movement speed isn't accurate to the story in a MULTIPLAYER match? It's all about having fun, not staying true to the story...

I agree with everything said by the OP.

Exactly. Campaign is for canon and story. Multiplayer is for fun and really slow moving spartans really isnt all that fun.

  • 05.02.2010 10:24 PM PDT
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Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.

I agree...but even better, just weaken the hell out of the base health underneath the shield, there's too much of it. Fix that and it's all good.

  • 05.02.2010 10:24 PM PDT
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Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.

Posted by: TheBossHammer
I agree...but even better, just weaken the hell out of the base health underneath the shield, there's too much of it. Fix that and it's all good.

That would unbalance non headshot weapons. Theyd be overpowered against headshot weapons.

[Edited on 05.02.2010 10:28 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2010 10:27 PM PDT
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Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.
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Agreed.

  • 05.02.2010 10:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Drizzle
Agreed.

thanks.

Somehow I get the feeling that even though most of the community will agree and that this is really important that this thread will just continually get pushed off page one because its not controversial.

  • 05.02.2010 10:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: AdR C05ta
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Posted by: Drizzle
Agreed.

thanks.

Somehow I get the feeling that even though most of the community will agree and that this is really important that this thread will just continually get pushed off page one because its not controversial.


probably.

some ruhtard will make a thread about how the the AR is underpowered, and he'll have 1000's of replys.

I should have put COD in the title. Its like that family guy episode when lois is running for mayor and shes just like

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  • 05.02.2010 10:46 PM PDT
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"I need a weapon."-Master Chief

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Posted by: Drizzle
Agreed.

thanks.

Somehow I get the feeling that even though most of the community will agree and that this is really important that this thread will just continually get pushed off page one because its not controversial.


probably.

some ruhtard will make a thread about how the the AR is underpowered, and he'll have 1000's of replys.

I should have put COD in the title. Its like that family guy episode when lois is running for mayor and shes just like

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11Haha! Yeah that's exactly what it's like. Family Guy refernce FTW.

  • 05.02.2010 11:28 PM PDT
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Subject: 3 things to make reach the best halo MP game ever.

Posted by: against nerfing
I think the framework for an amazing game is right there, its so close. Its not like H3 or 2 where the game was just fundamentally terrible.

If you do the things listed below, halo reach will be the best halo MP game in the franchise.

1. Reduce grenade damage/ radius/ nerf those -blam!-es.

2. Increase base player speed and jump height.

3. Increase the power of all non PWs equally. The weapons like the DMR, pistol, AR, NR, PP etc are all perfectly balanced compared to eachother. They just all collectively have too slow of kill times.



Agree 100%, well thought out post OP.

  • 05.02.2010 11:30 PM PDT
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Subject: If you tweak these things, you have the definitive halo.

You are a spartan. Your armor can deflect small arms fire, and can survive small explosions. Just remember to duck when you see a small, orange, plastic traffic cone going towards your face at a high velocity.

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Posted by: AdR C05ta
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Posted by: Drizzle
Agreed.

thanks.

Somehow I get the feeling that even though most of the community will agree and that this is really important that this thread will just continually get pushed off page one because its not controversial.


probably.

some ruhtard will make a thread about how the the AR is underpowered, and he'll have 1000's of replys.

I should have put COD in the title. Its like that family guy episode when lois is running for mayor and shes just like

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11Haha! Yeah that's exactly what it's like. Family Guy refernce FTW.

Topics with controversy tend to ongoing discussions about what to do with it.

You just happen to stumble upon some stuff already mentioned. : /

  • 05.02.2010 11:31 PM PDT
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