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Subject: The Armor Abilities Got to Go!

Who burnt the bacon?

Alright I can understand you don't like AA's, but then again you are an MLG player. You have a different perspective on the game. The majority like AA's, so AA's are going to be in the full game. MLG player's tend to not like things consider "noobish" AKA anything that can keep them from killing somebody. If you played Halo more casually you'd probably like AA's.

  • 05.20.2010 4:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: Milosmilk
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
When someone that actually knows how to play forms an opinion, then I'll listen. As such, I refuse to be lectured to by legit lieutenants and commanders about what makes a game fun and balanced. Good day.
ANYONE WHO ISN'T PRO DOESN'T HAVE AN OPINION.

YOU ARE ALL DUMB MONKEYS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES A GAME FUN TO YOU!


The reason this opinion is somewhat valid is for the same reason it's hard to take low level people seriously when they speak about starting weapons at spawn.

If you can't deal with what you're given and do well, how can your opinion be valid. It's like if you have a pro at chess and a beginner/casual player, the opinion of the pro chess player will be more valid due to his experience and insight.
The reason it isn't is because some of us don't play ranked, so we don't rank up. And some of us play objective gametypes. So kill/death doesn't reflect ability either.

People take one look at rank, and disregard everything the person has to say.

Hell, the people at Bungie aren't too hot at their own game. But I think they know a thing or two about Halo..


I look at a large number of stats before I assess whether or not a player is good at the game. I have yet to see someone who is that actually enjoys Reach.

  • 05.20.2010 5:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: Milosmilk
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
When someone that actually knows how to play forms an opinion, then I'll listen. As such, I refuse to be lectured to by legit lieutenants and commanders about what makes a game fun and balanced. Good day.
ANYONE WHO ISN'T PRO DOESN'T HAVE AN OPINION.

YOU ARE ALL DUMB MONKEYS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES A GAME FUN TO YOU!


The reason this opinion is somewhat valid is for the same reason it's hard to take low level people seriously when they speak about starting weapons at spawn.

If you can't deal with what you're given and do well, how can your opinion be valid. It's like if you have a pro at chess and a beginner/casual player, the opinion of the pro chess player will be more valid due to his experience and insight.
The reason it isn't is because some of us don't play ranked, so we don't rank up. And some of us play objective gametypes. So kill/death doesn't reflect ability either.

People take one look at rank, and disregard everything the person has to say.

Hell, the people at Bungie aren't too hot at their own game. But I think they know a thing or two about Halo..


I look at a large number of stats before I assess whether or not a player is good at the game. I have yet to see someone who is that actually enjoys Reach.
Stats aren't all encompassing. I feel like a broken record here.

  • 05.20.2010 5:05 PM PDT
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~Wash, The /Thread.

Bungie really needs to cut the cord on this whole community feedback thing. There is one side that says things like "it sucks, get rid of it", while other will say, "why? Seems fine to me."

The to give their argument credibility, in come the stats. Who give a poo about stats. Will your MLG 48 or Onyx rating better qualify you for employment. Yeah, your friends think you are cool, but guess what? I play casual style and my friends think I am cool as well.

To the OP, you first post says nothing constructive. It is just the same, "it sucks, get rid of it." And when anyone has asked for a logical, intelligent rebuttal, you refer them to that opinion of yours that should carry enough weight to stand on its own because you said so.

  • 05.20.2010 5:10 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: Milosmilk
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
ANYONE WHO ISN'T PRO DOESN'T HAVE AN OPINION.

YOU ARE ALL DUMB MONKEYS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES A GAME FUN TO YOU!


The reason this opinion is somewhat valid is for the same reason it's hard to take low level people seriously when they speak about starting weapons at spawn.

If you can't deal with what you're given and do well, how can your opinion be valid. It's like if you have a pro at chess and a beginner/casual player, the opinion of the pro chess player will be more valid due to his experience and insight.
The reason it isn't is because some of us don't play ranked, so we don't rank up. And some of us play objective gametypes. So kill/death doesn't reflect ability either.

People take one look at rank, and disregard everything the person has to say.

Hell, the people at Bungie aren't too hot at their own game. But I think they know a thing or two about Halo..


I look at a large number of stats before I assess whether or not a player is good at the game. I have yet to see someone who is that actually enjoys Reach.
Stats aren't all encompassing. I feel like a broken record here.


I second this. Just because someone sucks at the game doesn't mean they can't voice good feedback. But that's MLG perspective for you.

  • 05.20.2010 5:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Stats aren't all encompassing. I feel like a broken record here.


True, stats tell only a small part of the whole story.

What you're overlooking, however, is the fact that only lower-level people enjoy Reach, because it's so easy to play. It's random, silly, and noob-friendly. That's not just my opinion. That's at least half of the people that have played it's opinion.

The reason they like it? Because they can easily go positive by using a combination of Armor Abilities, grenades, and power weapons. That's not what makes a game good.

  • 05.20.2010 5:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF

Your retarded my friend. Its far from invincibility. Its nothing but a turtle shell that you cant even hide in forever. Everything in Reach takes a different kind of skill and absolutely no technique is "cheep" or "nooby". People need to stop being stupid and play a very masterfully made game, one that desuerves nothing but compliments. Or at least cunsructive critisism. Take out armor abilities isnt a constructive comment its basically like saying take my birthday gift back because i dont like it. At least pretend to be greatful.

  • 05.20.2010 5:12 PM PDT
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you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy

  • 05.20.2010 5:12 PM PDT
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We have only played a total of 4 maps so far, all asymmetrical. I wouldn't worry to much on balanced placement, especially since this is the purpose of the beta. To find problems and balance issues and fix them.

  • 05.20.2010 5:20 PM PDT
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disagree.

  • 05.20.2010 5:21 PM PDT
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I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: kshell11724
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF

Your retarded my friend. Its far from invincibility. Its nothing but a turtle shell that you cant even hide in forever. Everything in Reach takes a different kind of skill and absolutely no technique is "cheep" or "nooby". People need to stop being stupid and play a very masterfully made game, one that desuerves nothing but compliments. Or at least cunsructive critisism. Take out armor abilities isnt a constructive comment its basically like saying take my birthday gift back because i dont like it. At least pretend to be greatful.


How do you kill someone in Armor Lock again? Oh, that's right, you don't. How does my statement not correspond with that fact?

I don't have to be grateful if I don't like it. They took out my Brute Shot, made everything annoying and not fun, and the weapons are all way overpowered.

  • 05.20.2010 5:21 PM PDT
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I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

  • 05.20.2010 5:21 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.

  • 05.20.2010 5:23 PM PDT
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It's not halo 3 or halo 2 or w.e. It's a new game. Live with the new things. Don't like it? Play halo 3, people will still be playing it.

  • 05.20.2010 5:27 PM PDT
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The Armor Abilities Good to Go!

Weapon placement does need alot of work. The maps are so unsymmetrical though, I doubt it will ever be fixed.

  • 05.20.2010 5:27 PM PDT
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I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.


This statement proves that you don't have anything better to say..

  • 05.20.2010 5:30 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.


This statement proves that you don't have anything better to say..

This statement proves you can't defend your argument with a logical reason why you aren't an idiot, and why AA's should go other than you have trouble killing people that use them.

  • 05.20.2010 5:32 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: Jetpack Ability
Yea, Reach would be an incredible game with no AA's, and the speed increased. Seriously.

Or even just removing armor lock and sprint along with a speed increase would make Reach infinitely better than it is now.

I find this funny considering your username is Jetpack Ability.

  • 05.20.2010 5:36 PM PDT
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I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.


This statement proves that you don't have anything better to say..

This statement proves you can't defend your argument with a logical reason why you aren't an idiot, and why AA's should go other than you have trouble killing people that use them.


That's silly. It's not the fact that I can't still kick everyone's ass, which I most certainly can. It's that the Armor Abilities give everyone a chance to escape what should have been certain doom, because I was out-shooting them. It's an FPS. It should be about out-shooting people, not this. Stuff like that is retarded.

Also, the only AA that I really can't stand is the Armor Lock, which is incredibly broken. Camo is annoying, but has enough negative drawbacks that it's at least balanced. Everything else is logical.

  • 05.20.2010 5:39 PM PDT
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once again...proof that I can't?
Proof that you can?
You sir, have been amazing.

  • 05.20.2010 5:40 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: AustinCanMurder
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.


This statement proves that you don't have anything better to say..

This statement proves you can't defend your argument with a logical reason why you aren't an idiot, and why AA's should go other than you have trouble killing people that use them.


That's silly. It's not the fact that I can't still kick everyone's ass, which I most certainly can. It's that the Armor Abilities give everyone a chance to escape what should have been certain doom, because I was out-shooting them. It's an FPS. It should be about out-shooting people, not this. Stuff like that is retarded.

Also, the only AA that I really can't stand is the Armor Lock, which is incredibly broken. Camo is annoying, but has enough negative drawbacks that it's at least balanced. Everything else is logical.

I personally like AL. You kind of have to know when to use it. There have been times when I've survived, and times I haven't. IMO, is balanced. But it could use a slight decrease in time.

  • 05.20.2010 5:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeShot
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
once again...proof that I can't?
Proof that you can?
You sir, have been amazing.
As always. And, yes, before you ask...my forum skillz do get me all the ladies.

  • 05.20.2010 5:42 PM PDT
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I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: AustinCanMurder
I personally like AL. You kind of have to know when to use it. There have been times when I've survived, and times I haven't. IMO, is balanced. But it could use a slight decrease in time.


Honestly, it just needs for something in the game to be able to harm it. A plasma pistol overcharge actually bounces off it and back at you. That's ridiculous. Needlers, Focus Rifles, MASSIVE explosives, etc. do nothing. It's literal invincibility, which is in and of itself an imbalance. There has always been a way to counter everything. Why would they make something so broken now?

  • 05.20.2010 5:43 PM PDT
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Who burnt the bacon?

Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: AustinCanMurder
I personally like AL. You kind of have to know when to use it. There have been times when I've survived, and times I haven't. IMO, is balanced. But it could use a slight decrease in time.


Honestly, it just needs for something in the game to be able to harm it. A plasma pistol overcharge actually bounces off it and back at you. That's ridiculous. Needlers, Focus Rifles, MASSIVE explosives, etc. do nothing. It's literal invincibility, which is in and of itself an imbalance. There has always been a way to counter everything. Why would they make something so broken now?

I don't agree how it can bounce a rocket, but it is very funny.

  • 05.20.2010 5:45 PM PDT
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