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Subject: The Armor Abilities Got to Go!

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Posted by: AustinCanMurder
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Posted by: AustinCanMurder
I personally like AL. You kind of have to know when to use it. There have been times when I've survived, and times I haven't. IMO, is balanced. But it could use a slight decrease in time.


Honestly, it just needs for something in the game to be able to harm it. A plasma pistol overcharge actually bounces off it and back at you. That's ridiculous. Needlers, Focus Rifles, MASSIVE explosives, etc. do nothing. It's literal invincibility, which is in and of itself an imbalance. There has always been a way to counter everything. Why would they make something so broken now?

I don't agree how it can bounce a rocket, but it is very funny.


Funny, but imbalanced. That sort of thing should be kept to custom games and not all of matchmaking.

  • 05.20.2010 5:52 PM PDT
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Ok... Armour abilities DO NOT make people invincible. Just figure a way to beat them. Switch to an ability that would give you an advantage over theirs. Or grab a power weapon. I apologise to the pros reading this who know how to play.

Strategy still exists. The "rush" to get power weapons, for instance, is just more sophisticated now. Take Powerhouse, I use the jetpack to grab the rockets and then fly back up. Gameplay is more sophisticated. Sprinting with the Hammer, and being countered with Armour Lock or the Jetpack by opponents who fly away. Should I go on...? Just skim through the file browser or file search to see the clever things that happen.

  • 05.20.2010 5:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Big lulux
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You missed the part where they took out the brute shot and replaced it with a noob tube.

  • 05.20.2010 5:58 PM PDT
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I'm like the Doubles Robin Hood. I take True-skill from the rich and give it to the needy.

I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: Conquistadorr
Ok... Armour abilities DO NOT make people invincible. Just figure a way to beat them. Switch to an ability that would give you an advantage over theirs. Or grab a power weapon. I apologise to the pros reading this who know how to play.


Armor Lock makes you invincible while it's active. Like, literally invincible. As in nothing in the game can possibly do anything to you. That's STUUUPID.

  • 05.20.2010 6:00 PM PDT
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I do not have a problem with armor abilities but they need to be tweaked a bit at least.

  • 05.20.2010 6:01 PM PDT
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noob tube. hmmm. I like the grenade launcher. its not that easy to use. if anything its more skill based than the rocket launcher. unless you WERE referring to the rocket launcher. in that case, it sort of is. However, that has nothing to do with this topic.
I, for one, love all the abilities. I don't see how Armour lock is overpowered. Yeah, you're invincible(temporarily) but you CANNOT move.If you just use it as soon as you get shot at and waste it you WILL get killed. If your in close, then back up and line your shot up or toss a well timed grenade, jeez no ones makin you play leapfrog with the locked dude.

  • 05.20.2010 6:17 PM PDT
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The camo seems almost useless, except for very few ocations. Headhunter it's 100% useless.

  • 05.20.2010 6:25 PM PDT
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yeah but headhunter is about a mad and usually fatal grab for skulls. In Headhunter, no one lives too long.

  • 05.20.2010 6:40 PM PDT
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The Armor Abilities Got to Go!
Armor Abilities aren't going anywhere they will be in the full game your just going to have to adjust. I think Bungie has tryed to please all of their fanbase gameplay wise with halo 3 "causul" and "hardcore" and Halo Reach will be no different that's what playlists/customs and forge are for.Plus it was a beta things are subject to change.(AA charge times/how long you can use them)

  • 05.20.2010 6:41 PM PDT
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I'm like the Doubles Robin Hood. I take True-skill from the rich and give it to the needy.

I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: chimpsterMCtup
noob tube. hmmm. I like the grenade launcher. its not that easy to use. if anything its more skill based than the rocket launcher. unless you WERE referring to the rocket launcher. in that case, it sort of is. However, that has nothing to do with this topic.
I, for one, love all the abilities. I don't see how Armour lock is overpowered. Yeah, you're invincible(temporarily) but you CANNOT move.If you just use it as soon as you get shot at and waste it you WILL get killed. If your in close, then back up and line your shot up or toss a well timed grenade, jeez no ones makin you play leapfrog with the locked dude.


I was talking about the Grenade Launcher.

Why should I just run away from the armor lock guy like a coward because he's being a coward?

  • 05.20.2010 7:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF


Dude it's just like the bubble shield in halo 3 but the bubble shield is better.

  • 05.20.2010 7:55 PM PDT
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I'm like the Doubles Robin Hood. I take True-skill from the rich and give it to the needy.

I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: Sparta4Ever
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF


Dude it's just like the bubble shield in halo 3 but the bubble shield is better.


You could kill someone in the Bubble and they didn't spawn with it.

  • 05.20.2010 8:28 PM PDT
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I think Bungie should eliminate the inadvisability and armor lock and leave the jet pack and sprint as the only start off abilities. They to make things interesting they should bring back the old active camo and over shield so there is better weapon placement. This would also make things fair and bring the rush back because then you can have the jet pack and active camo or any combo of the 4 except sprint and jet pack or active camo and over shield. And one last thing to make the placement better is bring back equipment but simplify it to just the bubble shield, power drain, gravity lift, regenerater, and the trip mine.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:41 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 8:37 PM PDT
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Dude you are only invincible for like seven seconds. If you wait long enough you can easily kill said unkillable person. Quit your whining. Think of it like a personal bubble shield. I didn't hear anyone crying about those or trip mines or even power drain. Now those are personal devices. Better?
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF

  • 05.20.2010 9:22 PM PDT
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I doubt Bungie would introduce a major play mechanic and then take it out.

  • 05.20.2010 9:34 PM PDT
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Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." The beta fairly accurately represents what the final game will look and play like, save for a few minor tweaks. Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.


There's a difference between beta and demo, bub, you should learn that. The only thing that won't change much are the graphics.

  • 05.20.2010 9:34 PM PDT
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the way i see it is that the beta was like the awkward fat chick everyone knew in school but no one wanted to be seen with her but the actual game is gonna be that same girl in 10 years at the school reunion and she is gonna be the sexiest -blam!- there

  • 05.20.2010 9:46 PM PDT
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Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." The beta fairly accurately represents what the final game will look and play like, save for a few minor tweaks. Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.


There's a difference between beta and demo, bub, you should learn that. The only thing that won't change much are the graphics.
Hey guess what. When the final game comes out, and they only thing they've done is tweaked a few damage models, and fixed some glitches, you can come back and talk to me about it.

They aren't going to overhaul the game. They didn't do it for Halo 3, and they aren't doing it for Reach.

You're a fool if you think they're going to get rid of armor abilities.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 10:37 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 10:36 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: rejected1s
you know there gonna keep classic gametypes in right? there probly gonna make a playlist useing just gametypes without armor abilitys and more set to fit halo 3s standards,
that wasy everyone will be happy


Doubtful. Bungie never gives anyone what they want.

This statement proves you are an idiot.


This statement proves that you don't have anything better to say..

This statement proves you can't defend your argument with a logical reason why you aren't an idiot, and why AA's should go other than you have trouble killing people that use them.



why wouldnt they put a playlist in like that? its perfect for all who just cant forget the earlyer games

  • 05.20.2010 10:49 PM PDT
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if armour lock is overpowered, why isnt it used more? i see sprint and jetpack used more than it. the only time i have seen many people use it was on ctf

  • 05.21.2010 1:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Crazypuddingcup
Dude you are only invincible for like seven seconds. If you wait long enough you can easily kill said unkillable person. Quit your whining. Think of it like a personal bubble shield. I didn't hear anyone crying about those or trip mines or even power drain. Now those are personal devices. Better?
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF


huh? Oh, you mean no one whined about the equipment that pretty much destroyed Halo 3?

Yeah...no one whined about that.

  • 05.21.2010 4:54 AM PDT
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The only people that complain about MW2 are the ones that SUCK! they get frustrated and quit! Im 10th prestige and Im always doing something FUN in the game, I am NOT a TRY HARD and you shouldn't be either, but don't get me wrong it has it's flaws like every game.............................................and this doesn't mean I dislike Halo..........I <3 Halo.

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Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's

Really? I've been playing since HALO CE, I was really good at Halo 2, AND I have 50's in four different playlists and I LIKE AAs............adapt or go back to H3.

  • 05.21.2010 5:09 AM PDT
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The fact that I woudn't mind if they took them out says enough.

  • 05.21.2010 5:51 AM PDT
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Armor abilities is worse thing ever happened to halo.

It was better when u had to fight for camo or overshields, ofcourse scrubs are now happy, they never got to use them in previous halos.

  • 05.21.2010 5:58 AM PDT
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