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  • Subject: After going back to halo 3

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Posted by: TURBOGURU
Posted by: AwesomeA1K
Anyone who compares Reach to Halo 3 (it being a full game and Reach still being a Beta) loses all credibility. Those that go so far as to say Halo 3 is better than Halo 3 loses even more since, again, it's a beta and the Beta has only a small sample of the final game, while Halo 3 has many more features. Also because Halo 3 is different from Reach because it would be boring if it were the same as the last game, and if you don't like it, don't play it, because others really do enjoy it.


The problem here is, the game is virtually done... yes the beta is about refining the tweaking of things such as grenade splash, but what you see is pretty much what your going to get...

In Halo 3 did the beta really change that much from the retail version? ... yeah things such as the trip mine damage did, but these are just parameters... given the release date is a few months away there is no way any major code changes could be feasible.

So whilst its cool to keep telling people to chill out because its a beta I think its important to clarify that this is pretty much Reach multiplayer.

1. Thanks for not flaming my post like so many others do >_>
2. The game is supposed to be different. I understand some people won't enjoy it because of the changes, but plenty of others do. Truth be told, it's hard to please everyone at the same time. Many love Halo 3, though others just plain old hate the game. Same with the other games. Not much different foe Reach either. Asking them to change the game completely may please those that hate the game, though may make those that enjoy it begin complaining. It's a lose lose situation for Bungie. You never know though, they may include some gametypes that are different that may go back to the roots of Halo 3 instead of CE. Only final release (or Bungie) will tell.

  • 05.17.2010 3:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: TURBOGURU
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Reach is better.

/thread


Care to explain why? I really cant even see the underlying reasoning one might have.


Its a bot, its spamming other threads with the same garbage.


Yes, considering that I spam the annoying threads that contribute nothing to Reach, and only spew hatred, I must be a bot posting an opinion different than yours.

  • 05.17.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: warrior527
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Reach is better.

/thread


Care to explain why? I really cant even see the underlying reasoning one might have.


Considering how tiring it is, after seeing so many of the same threads saying, "Halo 3 is better" in the Reach Feedback forum, I'll keep this short.

People who consider themselves "true fans", meaning the ones who think C.E. was the best, and every Halo gets worse and worse afterward, are delusional.

We have only seen a small part of the full game, and these same people are already saying "this isn't the definitive Halo Bungie, zomg!" Which, as someone who has followed the game from the beginning, I laugh at.

Many, many friends of mine stopped playing Halo, because many other games are much more fast-paced, which was lacking in Halo 3.

Once we started playing Reach, I'll quote one of my friends, he said, "I am in love with Halo again."

Those of you who believe you know better than everyone else, don't realize that change is good, and will be embraced by those outside of the fanbase.

The OPs who post "Halo 3 is better" are kidding themselves.


Did you just say reach is ore fast paced? Are you drunk?

Half my games in reach consist of both teams sitting still.

Gun fights are reminiscent of drunken retarded fat bears stumbling around.

This game is soooooo slow.

You have played it right?

  • 05.17.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: MC LOL88
100% agreed

  • 05.17.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: TURBOGURU
Posted by: xBBx_L3G3ND
Bungie needs to stop trying to make this game like COD. Halo is nothing like COD and should never try to become like that. If i wanted to play COD gametypes ill go play that but ive played halo since CE and i can say this game feels nothing like halo. After Halo 2 the game went downhill (IN MY OPINION!)


I agree with you, some little kids might love the loadouts option, I freaking can't stand it, just gimmie a game with the weapons scattered around the map... it is this 'loadout' option that kinda puts a 'forced mode' onto the gameplay.

I appreciate that Bungie are trying something different, but forcing COD style of play just isn't how Halo works... I'm not sure if its something you could ever adapt to.

Actually, the loadouts are more like classes in TF2 than CoD which allows you to choose whatever weapon you want, unbalanced or not. Plus you can still pick up weapons. Also, you are forgetting the playlists that start you all out with the same guns, just with different AA's. While it's not that I love the idea, I can live with it.

  • 05.17.2010 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Reach is better.

/thread


Care to explain why? I really cant even see the underlying reasoning one might have.


Considering how tiring it is, after seeing so many of the same threads saying, "Halo 3 is better" in the Reach Feedback forum, I'll keep this short.

People who consider themselves "true fans", meaning the ones who think C.E. was the best, and every Halo gets worse and worse afterward, are delusional.

We have only seen a small part of the full game, and these same people are already saying "this isn't the definitive Halo Bungie, zomg!" Which, as someone who has followed the game from the beginning, I laugh at.

Many, many friends of mine stopped playing Halo, because many other games are much more fast-paced, which was lacking in Halo 3.

Once we started playing Reach, I'll quote one of my friends, he said, "I am in love with Halo again."

Those of you who believe you know better than everyone else, don't realize that change is good, and will be embraced by those outside of the fanbase.

The OPs who post "Halo 3 is better" are kidding themselves.


Did you just say reach is ore fast paced? Are you drunk?

Half my games in reach consist of both teams sitting still.

Gun fights are reminiscent of drunken retarded fat bears stumbling around.

This game is soooooo slow.

You have played it right?


Considering your arguments have no merit, I can assume what kind of person you really are, and are simply hating change.

Create an argument with substance, then I will take you seriously.

[Edited on 05.17.2010 3:12 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2010 3:12 PM PDT
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i just signed in to say that i complete 100% agree with the OP. This is exactly how i feel. Halo 3 > Reach.

Don't give us crap about it being a beta because nothing significant will change. The speed of the game won't become faster paced.

Halo 2 >> Halo 3 >>>> Reach

  • 05.17.2010 3:13 PM PDT
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Whoever said that Reach is faster paced is delusional as well. You can't honestly tell me that it is considering the length it takes to get kills and the speed of your Spartan.

Your friend probably fell in love with it again for a couple reasons. First of all, he hadn't played it in a long time so it was probably something new. I stopped playing Halo for awhile because I got tired of consistently doing the same thing. Lastly, he probably likes it more for the COD like features. Such as loadouts, abilities, weapons etc...

  • 05.17.2010 3:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cold Achilles


Halo 2 >> Halo 3 >>>> Reach


I've often said if Bungie just made the core Multiplayer of Halo 2 in HD that would be enough... it really was the most epic Multiplayer they created, combine some Halo 3 maps too, but mostly Halo 2 maps rock!

In some ways Reach MP reminds me of Halo 2 when I play it, but it seems like a much more dumb version, like handicapped lol, I'm not sure how to explain it.

  • 05.17.2010 3:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: blade5024
Whoever said that Reach is faster paced is delusional as well. You can't honestly tell me that it is considering the length it takes to get kills and the speed of your Spartan.

Your friend probably fell in love with it again for a couple reasons. First of all, he hadn't played it in a long time so it was probably something new. I stopped playing Halo for awhile because I got tired of consistently doing the same thing. Lastly, he probably likes it more for the COD like features. Such as loadouts, abilities, weapons etc...


1) It IS more fast-paced, that is a fact, especially considering sprint is an AA.

2) None of us have even played CoD, you assume too much. Also, to think that CoD is anything like Reach, is, I'm sorry, stupidity.

  • 05.17.2010 3:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: KillpocaIyps3
Reach needs certain aspects of Halo 3
-The VISOR style HUD & Effects (Makes you feel like you actually are under a helmet and not a floating camera)
-Spartan Speed and Jump Height Slightly increased (This can be done by a game option in the final game probably)
-Slightly more vibrant colors to give it that Halo feel.


OMG I NOTICED THAT TOO!. The visor in Halo3 looks like u have a helmet on! But in reach it just looks like ur watching ur TV playing a game.

  • 05.17.2010 3:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: warrior527
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Reach is better.

/thread


Care to explain why? I really cant even see the underlying reasoning one might have.


Considering how tiring it is, after seeing so many of the same threads saying, "Halo 3 is better" in the Reach Feedback forum, I'll keep this short.

People who consider themselves "true fans", meaning the ones who think C.E. was the best, and every Halo gets worse and worse afterward, are delusional.

We have only seen a small part of the full game, and these same people are already saying "this isn't the definitive Halo Bungie, zomg!" Which, as someone who has followed the game from the beginning, I laugh at.

Many, many friends of mine stopped playing Halo, because many other games are much more fast-paced, which was lacking in Halo 3.

Once we started playing Reach, I'll quote one of my friends, he said, "I am in love with Halo again."

Those of you who believe you know better than everyone else, don't realize that change is good, and will be embraced by those outside of the fanbase.

The OPs who post "Halo 3 is better" are kidding themselves.


Did you just say reach is ore fast paced? Are you drunk?

Half my games in reach consist of both teams sitting still.

Gun fights are reminiscent of drunken retarded fat bears stumbling around.

This game is soooooo slow.

You have played it right?


Considering your arguments have no merit, I can assume what kind of person you really are, and are simply hating change.

Create an argument with substance, then I will take you seriously.


I could say the same about you. All youve done is say " no youre wrong because ive said so". Youve made absolutely no argument at all.

Like I said earlier, im not against change. Im against thse specific changes theyve made from h2 to h3 and now again from h3 to hr. Making the game slower and making you feel less powerful as an individual.

  • 05.17.2010 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: warrior527
Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: warrior527
Reach is better.

/thread


Care to explain why? I really cant even see the underlying reasoning one might have.


Considering how tiring it is, after seeing so many of the same threads saying, "Halo 3 is better" in the Reach Feedback forum, I'll keep this short.

People who consider themselves "true fans", meaning the ones who think C.E. was the best, and every Halo gets worse and worse afterward, are delusional.

We have only seen a small part of the full game, and these same people are already saying "this isn't the definitive Halo Bungie, zomg!" Which, as someone who has followed the game from the beginning, I laugh at.

Many, many friends of mine stopped playing Halo, because many other games are much more fast-paced, which was lacking in Halo 3.

Once we started playing Reach, I'll quote one of my friends, he said, "I am in love with Halo again."

Those of you who believe you know better than everyone else, don't realize that change is good, and will be embraced by those outside of the fanbase.

The OPs who post "Halo 3 is better" are kidding themselves.


well thats a pretty dumb opinion, but alright.

  • 05.17.2010 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: LastWhiteMocha
Posted by: xBBx_L3G3ND
Bungie needs to stop trying to make this game like COD. Halo is nothing like COD and should never try to become like that. If i wanted to play COD gametypes ill go play that but ive played halo since CE and i can say this game feels nothing like halo. After Halo 2 the game went downhill (IN MY OPINION!)


OMFG.....how many times is my retard detector going to go off?


AA suck. he is entitled to his own opinion.

And to be straight up honest with you, halo 2 was the best online.

  • 05.17.2010 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: warrior527
1) It IS more fast-paced, that is a fact, especially considering sprint is an AA.



Oh youre a troll. That explains a lot.

GUIS operation flashpoint is more faster paced than unreal tournament. I said it so its true.

aimidoinitright Mr troll?

[Edited on 05.17.2010 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2010 3:23 PM PDT
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Copy Paste and delete all other threads...this sums up the crap on here.

  • 05.17.2010 3:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian from SV
I could say the same about you. All youve done is say " no youre wrong because ive said so". Youve made absolutely no argument at all.

Like I said earlier, im not against change. Im against thse specific changes theyve made from h2 to h3 and now again from h3 to hr. Making the game slower and making you feel less powerful as an individual.


I believe you are calling the kettle black.

Halo 3 fixed a lot of the issues that were in Halo 2, so that argument has no merit, and was considered "safe", because there were not many changes concerning core gameplay.

You are delusional to think that Halo 3 is faster than Reach. Plus Halo has always been a team based game, and if you really want to go lone wolf you can.

That hasn't changed.

[Edited on 05.17.2010 3:28 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2010 3:27 PM PDT
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I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

When Reach has been out for 2 years, you will wonder how you ever enjoyed Halo 3. Just like how, like you, I liked Halo 2 better than 3 until I had played enough of Halo 3 that I realized once and for all that it was just better.

Reach will be more fun when you have access to:

More than 4 maps
More than 6 gametypes
Campaign
Forge
Custom Games
Full Customization
Coop

etc.

[Edited on 05.17.2010 3:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2010 3:28 PM PDT
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