Halo Reach Beta Forum
  • Subject: After going back to halo 3
Subject: After going back to halo 3

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I agree, after a few matches it becomes relatively boring. Not nearly as fun as H3

  • 05.20.2010 10:47 PM PDT
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Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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Reach is better than Halo 3, but that isn't really saying much.

Some reasons why Reach is better than H3 include:
-Melee system is much better
-No dual wielding
-Weapons that actually have a good range
-Shots register
-Overall, the game takes more skill


Reach isn't as good as a masterpiece like Halo 1, or even the decent Halo 2. But it's much better than the joke that is Halo 3.

  • 05.20.2010 11:12 PM PDT
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Yarp.

  • 05.20.2010 11:16 PM PDT
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I agee to a point with this.. Ughhh I think were in trouble thinking the final product will be all that beta is not. Just my opinion.

  • 05.20.2010 11:21 PM PDT
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You are a spartan. Your armor can deflect small arms fire, and can survive small explosions. Just remember to duck when you see a small, orange, plastic traffic cone going towards your face at a high velocity.

I like the Beta a lot! However, I would like to see Classic Slayer, and the other varients, have their own playlist. I do like the armor abilities, but I would like to go back to the way things were without having to go back to Halo 3 or the original Halo.

Armor Abilities should stay, but the settings that got Halo to what it is should stay as well. It adds to the variety and selection of how the people want to play.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 11:36 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 11:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian from SV
Wow halo 3 is soooooo much better than reach. Why did bungie think hampering you at every turn was a good idea? H3 feels like reach except every part of the gameplay was made more over the top and fun. I dont understand the thought process of bungie. Its like they looked at halo 3 and said "this is too much fun, lets bring it down a notch".

Oh and dont say "adapt" or you dont want change etc. Ive played about 300 games of the BETA and im fairly good at it, ive adapted. I also was looking forward to change because like I said above halo 3 was not exactly my favourite halo game. The problem is they made the exact same changes I hated from h2-h3 again. I dont hate change, I hate THESE changes. STOP MAKING THE SAME CHANGES.

I spy some contradicting statements.

I played I think 225 games of Beta, went back to Halo 3, and got bored in one game.

I think Reach is a huge leap forward. It is part of a series. Series slowly evolve over time, becoming innovative and slightly different.

Is MW2, or the new Black Ops coming out soon, different to the original Call of Duty? Hell yeah. New innovations, new random crap thrown in. Is it better? Kind of. MW2 really sucks the wang, but it's better than CoD 1.
Bad example? How about, I dunno, Pokemon? The first one is very different to the newest. And the newest is pretty much so better. I'm not so sure on this one, because I ahven't played Pokemon in years, but you get the point.

Just because it is different means it is bad. You seem to be advocating a change to Halo 2, 2: The Sequel, instead of a prequel to the "God" that was CE.

I don't get it.

"I hate the change, Halo 3 was fun"
"Halo 3 was not my favourite game"
Those don't really belong in the same post, or even the same opinion, to me. They seem slightly contradicting. If you had said that Halo 2 was fun, OK, fair call.

I like Reach. It has a grittier, more team-orientated feel. That said, Free For All still manages to hold a ton of value. It seems "win-win" to me; but on these forums, it's "whinge-whinge".

Speaking of which, I believe there is a dedicated thread for rants. And I think that if you have reported a bloke for saying "Cool story Bro" (which I agree with, there is a place for this, and if not in it's place, its a cool story. Nothing more. It loses its meaning, if it has no home; like keeping a bird inside a filled fishtank), then I think it is fair to report you. It's overall just a spam of 'DONT CHANGE IT DONT CHANGE IT', and yes, I acknowledge your saying of 'Not that I don't want change, just not these changes'. But, man, it's not much help, it's just incoherent whining.

That is all.

  • 05.21.2010 12:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: thewhorocker15
Reach is better than Halo 3, but that isn't really saying much.

Some reasons why Reach is better than H3 include:
-Melee system is much better
-No dual wielding
-Weapons that actually have a good range
-Shots register
-Overall, the game takes more skill


Reach isn't as good as a masterpiece like Halo 1, or even the decent Halo 2. But it's much better than the joke that is Halo 3.


The melee system is better? Bungie has addressed the system is flawed and is changing it for the fall release, atleast slightly. Wow.

  • 05.21.2010 12:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: MC LOL88
100% agreed

  • 05.21.2010 12:29 AM PDT
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I likes to be playin vidja games :D

xD

just kidding

People shouldn't ask for a movement/jump increase because they already said its not changing.

  • 05.21.2010 12:42 AM PDT
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"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: NERF THE FRAGS
So.. lets follow canon on this one thing despite the fact that absolutely nothing else in MP makes any sense what so ever.

Actually, Multiplayer basically represents Spartan training on Reach. So yes, MP is canon even if the locations aren't really canon.

  • 05.21.2010 12:43 AM PDT
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THE BETA IS OK H3 IS BETTER. CALL OF DUTY MEETS HALO THATS HOW I C IT

  • 05.21.2010 12:59 AM PDT
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I WILL PLAY H3 UNTIL A BETTER GAME DROPS OR OF EQUAL VALUE

  • 05.21.2010 1:01 AM PDT
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I JUST HOPE THE STORY MODE IS FUN I THINK IT WILL BE. IT CANT BE WORSE THAN ODST

  • 05.21.2010 1:02 AM PDT
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Sadly, I have to agree to OP to some extent, I do think Halo 3 is better than reach currently and little is likely to change.

That said; I agree with reduction in movement pace and jump height, but they've done it to much. A middle ground between HR and H3 would be nice.

Weapon kill times to long, which would be fine with current kill speeds but for AA's, most of which are a get out of jail free card and you get near infinite use from them. I can count numerous times i 'should' have died. But escaped due to my sprint. And thats not even using Armour Lock!! (which imo is the worst thing they've brought to this game)

I hate to sound like a MLG fan boy but I have to agree that current game pace and cheap AA's make the game 'less skilled'. Hopefully they find a nice middle ground for full release!

  • 05.21.2010 1:20 AM PDT
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agree with the OP 100%. the game barely feels like halo anymore, first of all, the colors are grainy like the recent FPS games, so unlike the previous games including ODST that had bright, striking colors. The gameplay is also way too slow, the loadouts make getting out of bad situations way too easy and base player speed is too slow making strafing useless and getting around without sprint loadout very irritating.

i agree with the OP, i thought the reach beta was pretty good until i went back to halo 3, social slayer was much more fun to play and MLG was more competitive than arena by far. arena games took very long times to end because kills were so hard to get, the grainy color pallet with slow base speed with underpowered weapons and overpowered power weapons made even grab bag a chore to play in comparison to social slayer.

i was full of praise for the reach beta and was about to make a "goodbye" thread in the other reach forum until i had played halo 3 again. Bungie wanted to make a "definitive halo game". but the reach beta (which will be very close to the real thing) feels like a slowed and dumbed down, almost "unhalo" game. If they want to make this the best halo game, their only hope would be to give more customizable options for cusotm games like bloom options, speed, jump height, individual weapon damage etc so people who are unhappy with the default options can be happy. that's the only thing that could make the game appeal to more people and beat halo 3.

  • 05.21.2010 1:24 AM PDT
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OP has no concept of the word "fun".

  • 05.21.2010 1:35 AM PDT
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After going back to H3 last night, I found my enjoyment levels plummeted, tbh.

I could go into a lengthy diatribe on the possible reasons for this, but I think the amount of fun derived from a game is the best common denominator and a fair way to judge.

So, looking forward to September when I can retire H3 with honour, and play Reach - a better game imo.

  • 05.21.2010 1:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian from SV
I thought I was enjoying reach, I was beginning to think it was a pretty good game. Then I went back and played halo 3.

Wow halo 3 is soooooo much better than reach. Why did bungie think hampering you at every turn was a good idea? H3 feels like reach except every part of the gameplay was made more over the top and fun. I dont understand the thought process of bungie. Its like they looked at halo 3 and said "this is too much fun, lets bring it down a notch".

Yes I get that they wanted to make it more "realistic"(lolwut we are fighting giant battletoads) and "grounded", but its simply not as much fun as the previous games.

You know what the sad part is? This is the EXACT same scenario that I found myself in 3 years ago. H3 was just h2, made less fun. It was slower and felt more random. Why did they do the same thing again?

Oh and dont say "adapt" or you dont want change etc. Ive played about 300 games of the BETA and im fairly good at it, ive adapted. I also was looking forward to change because like I said above halo 3 was not exactly my favourite halo game. The problem is they made the exact same changes I hated from h2-h3 again. I dont hate change, I hate THESE changes. STOP MAKING THE SAME CHANGES.

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I have to say, I disagree with that in it's entirety.

I haven't played Halo 3 for several months now, and sparingly at that. Why? Because every match is the same. The maps change, but the tactic doesn't. Yes, tactic, as in singular. Run fast, grab BR. It's all the same. Halo: Reach is good in that it allows you to approach the problem from multiple angles.

Halo 3 to me feels more limiting. Yeah you move faster and jump higher, but you can only be so accurate with the BR's bullet spread. Everyone has to have a BR. You want to sneak around? Too bad. H3 doesn't roll like that. You want a jetpack? Too bad. You like sprinting from cover to cover? Nope, H3 doesn't do that either.

Not to mention that more than half the guns are practically useless. Why pick up a plasma rifle if I have a perfectly good AR fully stocked with ammo? Let's be honest, rarely will anyone pick up anything lower on the food chain than the AR.

I like how Reach does the plasma pistol. I actually ran out of ammo. I don't mean from overcharging, I mean it can actually be used now. To kill things. I find the weapon overhaul a welcome change.

Halo 3 has an innate, spammy nature to it. For me, that just aggravated me in free for all. In H3, rockets equals free kills that send you up the score sheet. OK for team games where it becomes a focal point of the combat, but not so much in free-for-all where some lucky jerk spawns closest to it. To an extent that's still in Reach, but it's a lot less of a problem between the armor abilities and the whole aiming overhaul. You can actually hit things now as opposed to spamming grenades and BR shots.

I find myself some-what surprised to say I actually enjoy free-for-all in Reach. There's something almost nostalgic about in the mix of AR's going full blast in very direction, punctuated by a satisfying THWACK to some unlucky chump's noggin. Halo 3's AR could get the job done, sure, but not without dumping half the mag into the wall. Of course, not that many people bothered learning how to get the most out of the AR anyway.

I think a lot of the griping is coming from folks who'd rather just chugg mountain dew and mash buttons because that's the only play-style they're familiar with. Pardon me if that seems like an over-simplification, but I think it's evident there's at least some truth to it.

You know, for all the griping about the movement speed and jump height -- THAT'S WHAT ELITES ARE FOR.

Yeah, they're more than just bullet magnets this time around.

P.S. For the record, COD was not the first game to have loadouts. Just off the top of my head, I know Star Wars: Battlefront's had classes, and so did Battlefield 2. But I mean heck, even D&D has/had classes.

  • 05.21.2010 2:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: MC LOL88
100% agreed

  • 05.21.2010 2:40 AM PDT
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Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Did you just call my girl a slut?

No he called her a cow.

i dont like the idea of shooting someone 5 times with a br i dont know its just not satisfying

  • 05.21.2010 3:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: thewhorocker15
Reach is better than Halo 3, but that isn't really saying much.

Some reasons why Reach is better than H3 include:
-Melee system is much better
-No dual wielding
-Weapons that actually have a good range
-Shots register
-Overall, the game takes more skill


Reach isn't as good as a masterpiece like Halo 1, or even the decent Halo 2. But it's much better than the joke that is Halo 3.



I don't know what game you have been playing.

  • 05.21.2010 3:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian from SV
Posted by: AwesomeA1K
Anyone who compares Reach to Halo 3 (it being a full game and Reach still being a Beta) loses all credibility.


A- If A beta from 2010 cant stand up against a game from 2007 then theres a problem.

B- The halo 3 beta was pretty dame close to the final product.


A-zyou compare a beta to a real game,of which we ve seen only 4 maps,6 gametypes,most of the weapons,barely half the vehicles
no Forge,no firefight,no Customs,no campaign,not all gamemodes
with acomplete game which allready had a beta and expect it to do better just cause its from 2010 !!!!

wow what a coincidence it cant,i am surprised some maps and some gametypes couldnt compete with 4 times the maps and games,more guns, more vehicles,customs etc

  • 05.21.2010 4:27 AM PDT
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Halo 3 is the best.

  • 05.21.2010 4:52 AM PDT
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I have never seen either Twilight movie.

Me arguing for either side would be like a low ranked player sharing their opinion on the starting weapon.

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Posted by: MC LOL88
100% agreed

  • 05.21.2010 5:11 AM PDT
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The only people that complain about MW2 are the ones that SUCK! they get frustrated and quit! Im 10th prestige and Im always doing something FUN in the game, I am NOT a TRY HARD and you shouldn't be either, but don't get me wrong it has it's flaws like every game.............................................and this doesn't mean I dislike Halo..........I <3 Halo.

Everytime I get on H3 it feels crappier.

  • 05.21.2010 5:12 AM PDT
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