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When the gameplay is slowed down it also eliminates all 1v1 encounters as teammates can and will intervene in the amount of time it takes to kill. Which brings me to my next point. You see, because the kill times of the non PWs are so long in comparison to the PWs that huge huge discrepancy causes the entire game to revolve around the PWs. When no PWs are up for spawn or in play the game just simply stops moving.

They're the "power weapons" for a reason. They are meant to have a stronger foothold than the standards. When Basic weapons defeat power weapons, there's no point in picking them up.

The point of having a team is for them to help you and vice-versa. The team based games are meant to be like that.

As for the standard weapons taking "so long" to kill, I've yet to see it take "so long" to kill anyone. It takes about as much time as it did in H:CE, probably 20% less actually. The only one that could even be construed as taking a "long time" to kill anyone would be the DMR. The reason behind making it take 5-shots rather than 4 is to keep it from becoming an all powerful gun.

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I don't feel that Reach promotes a slow style of play when you consider AA's like sprint, camo, and the jetpack, all three of which promote your faster, or more versatile movement across the map.

They also make it easier to escape and play defensively.*cougharmorlockcough*

I think if all else goes wrong, MLG will allow sprint and jetpack, and amp the damage/speed/jump stats.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:29 PM PDT]

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It takes about as much time as it did in H:CE, probably 20% less actually.

Well there goes any creditability you had. Im leaning towards you being a troll with a comment like that.

Whats next, HCE's graphics are actually superior to reach's. No crysis'.

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Obviously does cater to some people as some people do like it.

Pointless rant is pointless.

It caters to people who will accept anything bungie throws at them without question.

What about those that didn't expect a Halo 3.5?

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Sprinting lets you get to cover faster, yeah. But you also get a great medal for headshotting them.



Yep definitely a troll. Your rebuttal consisted of "no cuz you can get a kewl medal".


bridge, go under it.


Again... You attack the person. Kid, once you're out of middle school come back to the forum.



[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:35 PM PDT]

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The jetpack leaves you floating in the air. Familiar with the classic "Duck Hunt"?LOL, I used to play that game after I got home from pre-school. Jesus, that was 20 years ago....


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I don't feel that Reach promotes a slow style of play when you consider AA's like sprint, camo, and the jetpack, all three of which promote your faster, or more versatile movement across the map.

They also make it easier to escape and play defensively.True, but I'm not thinking typically thinking defense in a run-and-gun shooter. Sure, some people will, but I think for the most part, if you get into a 1v1 style dogfight, offense and defensive can and should be employed. The skill player should come out on top, it shouldn't be ambiguous. If it slows up gameplay, I'd venture to say that more teamwork needs to be employed to end the conflict quicker.

Granted, we only got to test 2 maps for "normal" gametypes, not including Invasion and Generator Defense. I would like to see multiplayer maps that are more akin to H:CE and H2 styling, where there was more an emphasis on open-map combat (Although I view Sword Base as the spiritual successor to Boarding Action from CE).

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:40 PM PDT]

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They went the right direction with lower jump heights, bringing back hitscan and single shot DMR. Then -blam!- it completely with massive kill times and armour abilities.

Nice one bungie. Makes the game boring after a single week, I literally can't play it, its that boring.

Someone really should inform them, LESS really is more in terms of fps. Look at counter strike. Still the most competitive FPS game and its over 10 years old.

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When the gameplay is slowed down it also eliminates all 1v1 encounters as teammates can and will intervene in the amount of time it takes to kill. Which brings me to my next point. You see, because the kill times of the non PWs are so long in comparison to the PWs that huge huge discrepancy causes the entire game to revolve around the PWs. When no PWs are up for spawn or in play the game just simply stops moving.

They're the "power weapons" for a reason. They are meant to have a stronger foothold than the standards. When Basic weapons defeat power weapons, there's no point in picking them up.

The point of having a team is for them to help you and vice-versa. The team based games are meant to be like that.

As for the standard weapons taking "so long" to kill, I've yet to see it take "so long" to kill anyone. It takes about as much time as it did in H:CE, probably 20% less actually. The only one that could even be construed as taking a "long time" to kill anyone would be the DMR. The reason behind making it take 5-shots rather than 4 is to keep it from becoming an all powerful gun.

Halo CE pistol was 3 shot weapon. DERP. lol

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They went the right direction with lower jump heightsWhat are you on?

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If you'd ever played H:CE PC you'd find that a Pistol duel is about the same length as a DMR duel.



Ok youre either...

A- A troll

B- mentally retarded.

C- Youve never played HCE and are just making stuff up.

Theres no way a sane, no trolling person whos played HCE could even think to say that. The kills times are not even close. Its 3 shot vs 5 shot with the 3 shot having a faster ROF.D, he might be really bad with the H1 pistol.

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If you'd ever played H:CE PC you'd find that a Pistol duel is about the same length as a DMR duel.



Ok youre either...

A- A troll

B- mentally retarded.

C- Youve never played HCE and are just making stuff up.

Theres no way a sane, no trolling person whos played HCE could even think to say that. The kills times are not even close. Its 3 shot vs 5 shot with the 3 shot having a faster ROF.D, he might be really bad with the H1 pistol.

True but to be that bad that youd take as long as the DMR to kill, I think you might be rounding up on option B...
Good call.

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Your logic fails. If you thought Halo was getting stale, YOU can go play something else. Don't complain when other people aren't happy about significant changes made to games that did not need them.
And you shouldn't throw a hissy fit when Bungie tells you their making a new game and it ends up being different than other games!

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Your logic fails. If you thought Halo was getting stale, YOU can go play something else. Don't complain when other people aren't happy about significant changes made to games that did not need them.
And you shouldn't throw a hissy fit when Bungie tells you their making a new game and it ends up being different than other games!If Bungie was making a whole new game, fine. Problem is, they're making Halo. For whatever crazy reason, they decided the series wasn't fun anymore so they made something else and called it Halo.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 9:31 PM PDT]