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  • Subject: ARENA, RATING, AND DIVISION IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK
Subject: ARENA, RATING, AND DIVISION IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK

I love halo i'm a huge fan i've read all 7 books and am on my 3rd time through them, i play cod to pass the time till reach comes out. I would fund the entire project if bungie would continue to make halo games even though i don't have that kind of money i would come up with it somehow ily bungie and halo !

OH bring back trueskill for people to see, its just odd that matchmaking is powered by it but we cant see what our highest skill is

  • 05.06.2010 11:10 AM PDT
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well my impressions were that it can b a pretty good system just i heard they give your rank on your best 3 games of the day i don't find that very consistant... and i would also like somewhat a ranking system maybey they can have the arena for tournament style but i also prefer the old ranking systrem with a few bugs fixed

  • 05.06.2010 11:11 AM PDT
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IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.06.2010 11:11 AM PDT
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is it possible to go down in arena rating?

  • 05.06.2010 11:12 AM PDT
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I think that Slayer Pro should be the default game type.

  • 05.06.2010 11:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: NERF THE FRAGS
Assists are weighted too heavily an deaths to lightly.

Assists have to be on par with kills because kill stealing would break the system otherwise. I agree that deaths should be penalized slightly more.

  • 05.06.2010 11:13 AM PDT
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I think the Arena should only have the Pro and Classic gametypes. IMO having the Stalker and Guard AA in the Arena makes it less competitive.

  • 05.06.2010 11:14 AM PDT
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I prefer FFA much better for competitive play, if its just you and your friend against a team who work together, then the gameplay just isn't fun, a mercinary slayer would be good, as long as you cant cheat the system like you can in COD

  • 05.06.2010 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: CT Brisk
Posted by: NERF THE FRAGS
Assists are weighted too heavily an deaths to lightly.

Assists have to be on par with kills because kill stealing would break the system otherwise. I agree that deaths should be penalized slightly more.


Doesnt matter. The system is there to rank you not alter how people play the game or make sure they dont get mad at eachother. An assist is simply not worth a kill, especially assists that come from you dying and a teammate killing the guy who killed you.

Right now this system rewards people who blindly rush and go huge negative because they get all kinds of assists. They often lose but the tiny losing penalty does nothing.

  • 05.06.2010 11:16 AM PDT
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i think that the rating E.G sergent warrant officer. need to be easier to see what rank you are because the colors are so simmilar to the background of the emblem of the rank coloration.

  • 05.06.2010 11:16 AM PDT
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Death Penalty needs to be more than 1/3. Full credit for assists is a positive, but 1/3 death penalty is way off base. It totally invalidates the ranking system. I understand wanting to encourage individuals not to camp, but 3/4 penalty would accomplish the objective, while not totally invalidating rankings.

  • 05.06.2010 11:17 AM PDT
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This is intended as constructive feedback.

I understand the concept of the rating/division, has something changed today as so far I haven't seen how one tells what division one is in (ie. is this visible in game or something we have to look up here on this site)?

Re Quitting - Again, we need an option to leave before match starts without FORCING us into the match to do so. Example, last night after many Arena games, a recently met player invited us to Grab bag. I couldn't exit gracefully from the game lobby as it was in voting lock-down mode.

Re Proximity Voice - I don't mind this as one can use it as a tool to feed mis-information if one knows the other team are listening. It is unfair however if the two or more players on the other team are in Group Chat, they get to hear our Proximity Voice while we don't get the same benefit. Solution: Make the game mode lock out Group Chat (I know this can be done as other MP game does it).

  • 05.06.2010 11:18 AM PDT
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I think that the arena ranking system should be more based on K/D ratio, because they are all slayer games. I think your total +score should be multiplied in some way by your +/-. Playing a game where i go 12kills 4assists and 3 deaths should garner me more points then a game where a guy goes, 16k 4a 9d. Also i think special medals should grant more points, for example if i get an extermination you should get say...+50 or something like that

  • 05.06.2010 11:18 AM PDT
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1 credit for an assist is perfect and warranted. The person who had the assist did 40%-99% damage, before the kill shot was taken. This is perfect as it is.

  • 05.06.2010 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: reckless10
i think that the rating E.G sergent warrant officer. need to be easier to see what rank you are because the colors are so simmilar to the background of the emblem of the rank coloration.


That has nothing to do with arena.

  • 05.06.2010 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Goodis9
I think that the arena ranking system should be more based on K/D ratio, because they are all slayer games. I think your total +score should be multiplied in some way by your +/-. Playing a game where i go 12kills 4assists and 3 deaths should garner me more points then a game where a guy goes, 16k 4a 9d. Also i think special medals should grant more points, for example if i get an extermination you should get say...+50 or something like that


Or they could make winning mean something again and that would solve everything

  • 05.06.2010 11:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deepsouth
1 credit for an assist is perfect and warranted. The person who had the assist did 40%-99% damage, before the kill shot was taken. This is perfect as it is.


In theory, sure. In practice though its a disaster. People are just running around blindly looking to melee people with no regard for dying or losing the game. You melee a guy and die, you just got an assist thats worth 3 deaths.

I went +12 in a game that my brother was trying to rage quit out of because he was doing so poorly. He got a higher rating than me.

The system is broken.

  • 05.06.2010 11:21 AM PDT
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Subject: ARENA, RATING, & DIVISION Impressions/Feedback

The only 2 problems I have are found in the link below:

Tab 1 of this spreadsheet demonstrates why a change in the Raw_Rating weight for Deaths should be 1 instead of 3. If you will notice, the differences between the average ratings is increased by 63%.

Tab 2 demonstrates that the maximum possible rating is actually 1844, not 2000. Conversely, the minimum is not 0 either...unless you have an infinitely high number of betrayals. I realize that realistically, scores of 0 and 2000 are impossible. However, I would think that the score of 1844 is realistically impossible, and anything above that isn't even theoretical.


The reason these are issues for me is that the rating itself is not indicative enough of what it means to play tactically in a game. If you a player is not aware of the fact that giving the other team kills will cause his team to lose, then he will be costing his team wins.

The problem I have with the maximum possible rating being 1844 is that it's not 2000, as we were told. All that would need to take place is to clarify for the community that the actual highest score achievable in a 4v4 match is 1844, and not 2000.



[Edited on 05.07.2010 6:13 AM PDT]

  • 05.06.2010 11:22 AM PDT
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Subject: ARENA, RATING, AND DIVISION IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK
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Posted by: Frathos
This is intended as constructive feedback.

I understand the concept of the rating/division, has something changed today as so far I haven't seen how one tells what division one is in (ie. is this visible in game or something we have to look up here on this site)?


I can't figure this out either. Other people seem to know what league they are in, but I can't find anything pertaining to my division and ranking on the site here or in the game. Would someone care to explain where we can find this information?

  • 05.06.2010 11:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deepsouth
1 credit for an assist is perfect and warranted. The person who had the assist did 40%-99% damage, before the kill shot was taken. This is perfect as it is.

A CoD5 like system? You get a certain amount of points depending on the % damage dealt?
Sat if you got 1-10, you get very little for the assist, but if you did 90-99 you get full points or near-to?

  • 05.06.2010 11:22 AM PDT
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i don't even know what division i'm in. where do i see this?! what would be so hard about a service record like in halo 3? yes yes i know this isn't halo 3 but the service record was one of halo 3's best features. it doesn't have to be exactly like it but something along the lines of a more detailed stats page instead of just matchmaking games played and matchmaking games won.

  • 05.06.2010 11:23 AM PDT
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I would like to see what 3 game ratings are currently making up my daily rating right there where the little white bars are tracking the number of ranked games for the day.

Go ahead and calculate our Raw_Rating for each game and make it a stat on the post-game carnage report.

  • 05.06.2010 11:23 AM PDT
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Division is not displayed next to your name in matchmaking, I have ranked every day yet no division number or star color shows up next to my name - only on the Bnet service record.

  • 05.06.2010 11:23 AM PDT
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