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Subject: MATCHMAKING & GENERAL SETTINGS Impressions/Feedback

I don't like when a party of over 2 people play invasion and get put on different teams

  • 05.19.2010 8:48 PM PDT
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I want to agree with the people that commented about the people not voting having a vote count anyway, however, I would like to differentiate just slightly. If they are away from their console or looking at stats, I can see why bungie gives them a vote. However, if the voting ends up in a tie, the gametype that was actively voted for should be chosen, not the gametype that is first based on default votes. That way, it makes it fair for those players that were paying attention. Clearly, half wanted to play that gametype, and it was that half that were paying attention. Also, great work on Matchmaking. I think it runs smoothly and is easy to navigate.

  • 05.19.2010 9:22 PM PDT
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Parties matched with other parties, loners matched with other loners. Or at least a matchmaking setting for it...

The most recent game I played for example, had two parties of two people, and the rest of us were loners, but instead of teaming the parties against each other, it paired them together.

Or playing in a game where one team is loners, and the other is a party of 4, well communicating, people. Why can't the matchmaking match full parties, with other full parties?

I would much rather wait a little bit longer to find a game, if it means I'm going to have a better chance of a balanced match.

  • 05.19.2010 9:47 PM PDT
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An idea I've had was a way to cut down on the number of player drop outs.

1. Choice of Playlists: The main matchmaking menu should be broke down in to different catagories. "Arena, Invasion, Slayer (Team, FFA), and Objective."

2. Game Varient: Once a playlist has been chosen you and your party should then get to vote on the game varient for that playlist. "Swat or SvE for slayer as example"

3. Choose Map: Once the game varient has been chosen another round of voting would take place for the map the match would take place on.

This is just a thought that came to me after having a number of players drop out because they didn't get the game type thay wanted to play.

If anybody has a way that would improve my idea please do so.

  • 05.19.2010 10:42 PM PDT
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1.i like the voteing system but there are a few twecks that need to be altered. i feel it is unfar that your vote is auto casted on the first map and gametype meaning if someone dosent cast it useally results in the defult map and game type this is an easy fix. just only cast votes when the play has selected the map and game typ-e they wish to play i also nhoticed that gustes votes are forced when you freind casts his vote meaning that the guste dosent get to chose what he plays for himself often leaving my friend feeling uninportaint. Finaly when a vote is tied i think that a random map and game type should be selected nt just the defult option meaning that sleayr pro is hadly played! thank you! P.S i hope the beta and peoples coments have helped to improve the finnal game, makeing it Fun, Commpetative, team baised, and skill full (chalangeing). thanks.




2. i loved halo 3 to me it was the best game ever released and a large part of what made it so good was the large range of ranked playlisted and equaly matched oponentce. dont get me wrounge i like arrena but it dosent compear to halo 3 get into the top division is not on the same page as getting your first 50 on halo ( or what ever personal goal people have set) i dont see why both arrena and ranked playlist cant be in reach.
thank you





3. when serching for a match i like how in arrena u find your team mates before anothere full team not discriminating you for searching alone or whith freinds. it reduce wait time if you search in a 3 or a 4 and gives you a challange if searching by yourself or in a 2. thank you .


thanks i hope you take this in to considiration and good bye.

  • 05.20.2010 3:04 AM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING AND GENERAL SETTINGS IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK

There should just be a list of different invasion, free for all, and grab bag games, instead of just voting for the games. And you should be able to pick spartan or elite for a character. The character you pick can just change depending on what game you play in.

  • 05.20.2010 4:48 AM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING & GENERAL SETTINGS Impressions/Feedback
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I live in Melbourne, Australia, and quite often the matchmaking takes an extremely long time to setup. I don't know if this is related to the distance separating me from the game servers, but it takes way longer to find a game than say what it did in Halo 3.

  • 05.20.2010 5:33 AM PDT
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Not only is voting done quickly and without warning, but by default the first game in the list is the auto choice. I can't tell you how many games of stockpile I got into and then watched as my whole team left the game because they were mad we were playing stockpile. Maybe you could put in more lists, one for each of the game types? So that when you pick the Slayer set you know your only playing Slayer and the only choice will be which map. Or maybe there could be no auto choice, people would have to actually choose to be part of voting.

  • 05.20.2010 5:44 AM PDT
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Can Bungie please add some sort of visual cue to the armory to tell me when I have found a match and need to vote. I often find myself toying around with colors and missing the chance to vote.
I know I really should be paying attention but adding a visual cue would be a nice little feature.
And can voting for the map and game be separate please?

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:29 AM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 8:27 AM PDT
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Its too long loading in the sheard files. When you're gonna watch a picture its a long loading for every picture. Make the loading shorter, or no one will watch them.

I'm not able to click "I like this" on others pictures.

  • 05.20.2010 8:42 AM PDT
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I really hope and belive that when you playing halo: Reach you dont have to hope for what game mode you're going to play.
We should make a choise for either stockpile, jugganout, or any other game-mode before we start finding matches, like it was on halo 3.

Where you choose either free-for-all, grab bag, invation and network test 1, you should also put in all the other gametypes as well. such as: stockpile, HeadHunter, slayer, swat, juggernaut etc.

  • 05.20.2010 8:51 AM PDT
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(Sorry for my,in case,bad english..)

I agree with Noctis Striker..
Please let players make their own choise about the type of game they want to play: headhunter is fun but when I play alone I prefer slayer and it would be great if I could choose if and when playing oddball, crazy king and all the other game types. About oddball, it's fun the skull keaper moves slowly and has no radar but 150 points to win is too much, obviously just in my opinion.. :-) If you think 50 pts (like in halo 3 oddball mode) are not enough, I belive 80-100 could be, what do you think? :-)
One more thing: please, let the camera turn, by the right stick, after one's death, and before respawn..like halo 3.. :-)

Anyway, I want to say your job is GREAT, new abilities are gorgeous and they allows players to make their own strategy, or simply to choose their own game style! Maps are what I was waiting for: they are huge like halo 1 ones!! :-D (could y please add one "snow" map for me? It's my favourite ahahah.... :-D ) Invasion and the network test mode are really really fun and now, thanks to the different abilities choise, a group of friends can built his own strategy..and his own invincible team!

Sorry for too much writing.. :-D
You did a gorgeus job Bungie team, as always, but this time is the greatest!!

Greetings from Italy and sorry again if my english is not perfect!

  • 05.20.2010 8:56 AM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING AND GENERAL SETTINGS IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK

hey I LOVE THE NEW MATCHMAKING STYLE !!!!

  • 05.20.2010 12:03 PM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING & GENERAL SETTINGS Impressions/Feedback

Generator defense is AWESOME! You should really put it in the final release. However, I had a group of 3 people at my house, and it said that the party was two big- this might be because this is a Networking game?

  • 05.20.2010 12:15 PM PDT
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A guy betrayed me 3 times in Invasion, and it took until the end of the game for all of the Boot messages to come up.

  • 05.20.2010 12:16 PM PDT
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My comments come after logging about 300 games. Hope they help! EoN Shadow


When partied up with three or more people in invasion, it needs to keep the party together! Hopefully in the release version, this will be the case.

I really liked the variety of choices. Having a flag, slayer and some other objective game was great. When it's a tie, I'm not sure why it always picks the 1st listed choice though? Could there be a re vote, or at least have the choice between the two be random?

  • 05.20.2010 12:40 PM PDT
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They should make it where you can't change your vote after it is cast. I get tired of people changing there vote at the last second or going back and forth for no reason.

  • 05.20.2010 2:00 PM PDT
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When capture the flag starts up, we need it to say "Defense" or "Offense" again so we don't have to read what we're doing.

For Stockpile we should be able to see our score of how many flags we got in in the stats at the end!

For CTF we should see how long we've held the flag, not just who scored, or distance covered with it, because if you get the flag 95% of the way and then die and someone drops it two feet in the last second to score, you should get recognition and see that you contributed in the stats!

The loadout positions should be the same in the menu to you can always scroll to the same slot to chose your class.

You should be able to set your default loadout option so if it's available in that game, it always choses it (like inverted for example).

Sudden death length should be longer or not at all.

I like how the positioning includes assists, but during a tie, the people with better stats (K/D, assists, etc) should get more points, if they already don't.

Once you've won two rounds in CTF the game should end.

To sign out of a gamer profile should only be one step.

It needs to say "Territory captured" when you gain one, instead of just "lost" all the time.

Party chat should NOT BE ALLOWED in team games when other teammates aren't on it, without communication you can't play together and often you lose; and we need a way to at least tell them to get out of it in one button or at least make sure they can hear us no matter what if they're in party chat.

  • 05.20.2010 3:34 PM PDT
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Jumping on the bandwagons here...

1) No auto-votes for the first choice; only actual votes should count
2) The voting period needs to be announced so players in other menus know
3) In case of a tie, a second round of voting between the two that tied is in order. If they tie, the game is randomly picked.

  • 05.20.2010 4:07 PM PDT
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With regards to voting on maps, don't have people default their vote to any particular choice. If nobody ends up voting, take one at random. If only one person cares to change their vote from <no vote> to <whatever map>, then that person deserves to get what they wanted. As it is, most matchmaking games end up being democracy by apathy. None of the above should aways be an option as well.

  • 05.20.2010 4:10 PM PDT
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My whole team quit out due to a server lag except me, could you fix it so that the teams balance if the lag happens before a game starts, or at least that the matchmaking starts over again.

  • 05.20.2010 4:12 PM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING AND GENERAL SETTINGS IMPRESSIONS AND FEEDBACK

In the case of Invasion, the order of appearance should be mixed up when it's voting time. By doing so, I think Invasion Slayer will be picked more often.

  • 05.20.2010 4:28 PM PDT
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Subject: MATCHMAKING & GENERAL SETTINGS Impressions/Feedback

In a ranked match (in halo 3, now the arena in halo reach) I understand that when someone quits the game the team the player was on is SOL, but in unranked games people should be able to join and leave matches at anytime. I was an avid halo CE fan for the pc and I could play CTF for hours on the same server with new and interesting people just coming and going as they pleased. It was a casual experience, and more importantly it was just plain fun. I'd love to see this type of gameplay make its way to halo reach, even if its just a certain game mode that allows it.

  • 05.20.2010 4:31 PM PDT
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Great job, guys.

However, I have some concerns:

I was having a sleepover with some friends and they seemed to figure out an unfair advantage: In Team Swat on Sword Base, the whole team hides in the Black Sniper Spot and waits it out for the other team to come.
Thankfully, my friends suck at Halo so they were beaten easily, but I am concerned if a good player is to hide in there with his team, he could be literally impassable because of his sniper skills.

Thanks for the Beta guys.

- Lord Hermes

  • 05.20.2010 4:43 PM PDT
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JAKE HARTLEY

Please speed up matchmaking buy using the COD approach. In the postgame lobby if someone leaves start searching for a replacement as soon as that person leaves, instead of waiting for the countdown to end. This way more people will stay for multiple games and I won't have spend all day searching for games.

  • 05.20.2010 4:51 PM PDT
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