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You haven't even had them a day yet, guys.

o.O

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Posted by: KRAAAYZIE
This is very very poor weapon placement in my opinion.

While the weapon placement can be argued to be biased, it is very similar to that in the original map, Hang 'em High. While I have to agree that this map isn't well suited for objective based gametypes that are centered on the individual bases (CTF, Assault), I have to point out that this is an awesome map for other gametypes (KotH, Territories, Oddball, Slayer).

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Posted by: JerodR
Also, I would like to see rockets as well.

Rockets are in the pipe in the water thing.

[Edited on 04.17.2007 7:57 AM PDT]

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Okay, I havent even downloaded the maps but I see alot of kids crying on here about the pistol being the main weapon of Hang Em' High in Halo, well.. I dont know about you guys, but I played link with friends on Halo. And as we all know host sucks anyways, its just something you have to cope with over the internet.

Play Halo 2 LAN with some friends on Tomestone, The BR (Halo 2) is the PISTOL (Halo).. and if you have an ounce of team work or communication in you, im sure the map isnt as imposible to get across as Containment is with Turets, snipes, rockets, tanks and warthogs, plus the 3 or 4 guys u meet underneath by the overshield each time you try to go from one base to another.

Deal with it kids.

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Posted by: Kamatzu
You haven't even had them a day yet, guys.

o.O


Yeah that is exactly the problem. Everyone got the maps expecting them to be just like the HaloCE originals. But they're not. Certain Affinity even said that the reason the changes were made had to do with the maps not being as fun the way they were before. It's Halo2 and the physics and game-play are all different. These maps will be a lot of fun in my opinion, especially when they've been played enough so that different strategies start showing up. It's gonna take more than a day to know for sure how good these maps are. When Halo2 came out I was disappointed in the multiplayer maps, but after I got used to them they were fine. Even if slayer doesn't turn out to be as good, I think the objective based games such as capture the flag are gonna be great.

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Hmm... I was an avid CE player before Halo 2 released... how come I like the maps then?

I personally LOVE Desolation. And you know what makes it so much cooler? If you make a custom game and turn on both the primary and secondary light vehicle, they will BOTH be on the map. 4 vehicles. Makes for interesting combat. But in itself it is still a map i know i am going to like. Good placement for the sword and rockets, and you have shotguns in the side, and the one thing I love is no snipers.

Tombstone is actually looking good to me. As a map. You know the problem with the remake? It doesnt matter how good it looks or how hard you try to make it work in Halo 2, it WILL NEVER work the way you all dream it would. Thats because Hang em was designed on a specific engine, with specific weapons, and with a different concept. It obviously cant fit with Halo 2, everyone knew it, yet everyone also was begging and pleading for it to be a remake in Halo 2. Well, good job you guys, if Hang em is ruined for you, its your own fault.

I like them though. thats all that matters to me.

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Posted by: KRAAAYZIE
You all just have to understand that it's such a sad sight to see two of the best maps from your favorite game turn into.. well, these.

It's like having a hot wife, and then about 10 or 20 years into the marriage, she gains a lot of weight.


Shallow bastard.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: KRAAAYZIE
It's like having a hot wife, and then about 10 or 20 years into the marriage, she gains a lot of weight.

and what? You somehow love her less? Or do you focus on the really important reasons that you are still together after all of these years?

I suspect that you are not married. I understand what you are trying to say, but your analogy is shaky.


omg kids gettin owned by forum ninjas gotta love it.

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I find the new maps to be fine. Tombstone has the same layout that I remember, and yes, there is no Halo 1 Pistol, big deal. So you have to actually present some skill rather than trying to pop the other team once they spawn. Active camo would be nice, yet its not necessary, you can get across if you are careful. I think the idea of it being abandoned, and the color scheme to work well, especially for the theme of Halo 2. The red-orange and brown idea are key to the Halo 2 marketing, and Tombstone matches that. I am excited to play on them, its a change.

I never really like derelect before, so I don't personally have an attachment to Desolation, yet I'm sure it will be fine to play on. Yes grav lifts are dangerous, but thats the point. Plus, as stated earlier, there is an overshield as soon as you land. I figure stop complaining and just play. Halo 3 is on its way. No worries.

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OMG!!! This is what happens to women after you marry them???? Why didn't somebody tell me this a year ago!?! You Bass turds!!

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My group of friends and I played Hang 'Em High about as much as anyone could, and I'm very satisfied with the way tombstone worked out. It could never be the same map, because it's a completely different game. You may as well ask for your favorite Quake maps to get ported for Halo 2, but there is no way it could ever be the same.

Tombstone, just like Hang 'Em High, is not great for multi-flag/bomb or neutral flag/bomb, it's an asymmetrical map with certain advantages and disadvantages for either team. It works just as well as the CE version with single flag/bomb, slayer, KotH, Oddball and almost any FFA gametype. If you can't seem to get from one side of the map to the other, then maybe I could suggest that your opponents are better than you? Now, there's no need to send me messages stating "OMFG, WTF I'll -blam-ing pwn U right now in 1V1." I'm sure you're Halo 2 skills are better than your grammar and punctuation....they couldn't be much worse.

Desolation looks like a fun, fast map, and it flows a lot better than derelict did. There are all sorts of ways to move yourself around besides the basic grav-lifts and the two ramps, you should spend some more time practicing your movement before you condemn the map as fundamentally flawed. All things considered, the guys at C.A. pulled off the remakes beautifully, and bungie even managed to make them available to Oldboxes as well as the 360 despite the technical nightmare that this caused.

For 4 dollars you can't hardly complain anyway. ....Now if I could just get them to remake Damnation and Boarding Action for Halo 3, then all would be right in the world.

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I for one, give mad props to Certain Affinity. Hell of a job guys. I'm amazed that after all this time we actually have new maps to play on. Thanks again. These new maps should keep me busy until the Beta for H3 rolls around.

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Posted by: medpimp
My group of friends and I played Hang 'Em High about as much as anyone could, and I'm very satisfied with the way tombstone worked out. It could never be the same map, because it's a completely different game. You may as well ask for your favorite Quake maps to get ported for Halo 2, but there is no way it could ever be the same. ...


.... For 4 dollars you can't hardly complain anyway. ....Now if I could just get them to remake Damnation and Boarding Action for Halo 3, then all would be right in the world.


I agree 100%. Actually, tombstone really did feel a little like a Quake map to me. Not complaining...I like Quake, also. I think the new maps are going to be fun. I look forward to seeing 8v8 slayer on tombstone...although it will have to be custom for now.